2020’s boxset of Power, Corruption & Lies was accompanied by the reissue of the four standalone 12˝ singles New Order made around the era. Although there’s two gigs’ worth of live footage on the bonus DVDs, Gillian admits: “I shouldn’t say this, but I haven’t bothered watching the boxset gigs. When I watched the Channel 4 documentary Play At Home that’s in the boxset, I just worried about how fat I looked. I was only watching it to see how I looked back then, rather than if I played well. But I was able to appreciate how good the band were – I’d been really nervous before watching Play At Home, but I ended up thinking, ‘That was you, that’s how you were at the time, and that’s OK.’ So I would now like to watch the gigs.”