This idea of ‘chaos’ – was it something you always wanted to explore in Van Der Graaf Generator?
It wasn’t initially, but once we got going, it was something we embraced. It was a good thing we did, because it was going to come our way in any case. We would head off on tour and not really know what was going to be coming at us, and quite a lot did come at us. Italy was the most extreme, although almost anywhere we went there was a kind of slightly strange element. But it did contribute in some way to our forceful approach to the music, hence this thing of chaos being endemic in the existence of the group.